Уже обсуждалось.

Потому что он ещё не увеличивает. Когда будет увеличивать — тогда и будет сказано.

Я привёл таблицу.



Кровавая Администрация™ постановила: отказать.

New CRP will be 6, not 5.5. Spire's cost would also change, but no existing levels will be recalculated.
Opening post was updated with new details.

Новый КУ технологии будет 6, а не 5.5. Шпиль также получит новую стоимость, но без пересчёта существующих уровней.
Заглавное сообщение обновлено.

На этот случай есть глушение форумного сигнала. Если вас таких недовольных много, то вы без проблем обрежете смутьяну доступ на форум и без административного ресурса.

We're talking about 3 levels because the bonus will be given each 3 levels. And now you're suddenly comparing total cost of levels (x+3, x+2, x+1) with cost of level x, instead of cost of levels (x, x-1, x-2) that were required to get previous bonus? That's not right.



Same as above. If for the last upgrade to get planet you paid 100, this means you paid 100 for previous 3 levels. You're getting the wrong number because you're comparing cost of next 3 levels to a cost of one previous level, instead of 3 previous levels.



Initial cost for Spire is the total cost of it's first 3 levels, which is higher than the cost of tech's first level.

I've added tables for new expected costs for both ColTech and Spire, please check these to see whether we're discriminating against zerg.

No, the current Spire has a problem of high initial costs, which then are becoming more comparable with tech and cheaper after level 30. Because the effective exponent for Spire is lower than the exponent for the new tech.
You gave a formula, let's apply it (I've shortened some variables):
Cost(L) = I*(1-q^L)/(1-q)
Cost(L+3) = I*(1-q^(L+3))/(1-q) = I/(1-q) - I*q^(L+3)/(1-q) = I/(1-q) - I*q^L*q^3/(1-q) = q^3*(I/(q^3*(1-q)) - I*q^L/(1-q)) = q^3*(I/(1-q) - I*q^L/(1-q) - I/(1-q) - I/(q^3*(1-q))) = q^3*(I*(1-q^L)/(1-q) - I*(q^3+1)/(q^3*(1-q))) ≈ q^3*Cost(L)
Blue part is not proprotional to level, and becomes insignificant as level goes up, so the ratio of costs for levels L+n and L would be q^n.



If up to level x you paid 100 units, that doesn't mean level x itself costs 100 units. E.g. if x=3 and you paid 100 total for levels 1, 2 and 3, their costs were something like 18, 30 and 52, so for the next 3 levels you'll have to pay
x+1 -> 52*1.7=88.4
x+2 -> 88.4*1.7=150
x+3 -> 150*1.7=255
With total cost of these 3 levels being 88+150+255=493, which is awfully close to 1.7^3 times 100.

I appreciate people checking my math, but I still believe I'm right in this case.

Не придётся.

I think I had a discussion like that before.



Reworking things for some but not all would be definitely not balanced in this case.



No.
(One of our services decides to act wonky because of some arcane reason, and now every change is because of “server load”. Overmind…)

There will be an extra option in planet settings, where you could use decolonization. It would work the same as abandon, but with compensation of planet's objects, and it will only be usable a limited amount of times.



Most likely it would be a kind of medal, which you will be able to activate on any planet you want.



No objects would be deleted without your explicit action (or your enemy's, but that's not relevant here).
Instead, if you have more objects than your current limit allows, you will have an “overpopulation” debuff, which will reduce your production until you fix either the object count or the limit.



Yes. Satellites will be gradually given with each level (+3, +3, +4, for total of 10 per 3 levels).



That's not how geometric progressions and their sums work.
For example, full Spire24 costs 240M in 'gas equivalent'. New ColTech8 with same effect would cost 210M.
Then, Spire27 has a total cost of 1190M, while new ColTech9 would cost 1150M. Differences are 950M and 940M respectively, almost dead even.
Then, Spire30 has a total cost of 5850M, while new ColTech10 would cost 6330M. Differences are 4660M and 5180M respectively, so the tech is more costly to develop now.

3 levels of Spire have an equivalent CRP of 1.7^3, or 4.913. There's a bit of problem with initial costs (so it takes a lot of levels for Spire to catch up and become cheaper to develop in absolute values), but we've already decided to use CRP 6 for new ColTech so we are going to adjust the Spire too. (All details for new “new” CRP will be announced tomorrow.)

Da andere Rassen 1 Technologielevel verlieren (von 8 auf 7), benötigen Zerg-Spieler Spire Level 21, um 7 Bonusplaneten (insgesamt 8) zu erhalten. Sie erhalten Ressourcen aus deaktivierter Technologie zurück, die die Kosten für zusätzliche Spire-Level decken sollten, und Sie haben die Möglichkeit, einen Planeten zu dekolonisieren, sodass Sie ohne nennenswerte Verluste vom alten Limit von 9 zum neuen Limit von 8 wechseln können. Technisch gesehen werden Sie nicht gezwungen, irgendwelche Planeten zu verlassen, aber es gibt eine Strafe („Überbevölkerung“), die die Produktion reduziert, wenn Sie mehr Objekte haben als Ihr aktuelles Limit.

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Уже обсуждалось.

Полная стоимость всех уровней.



Сенаторы уже потихоньку возбуждаются, но я не думаю, что Император им позволит это заблокировать.



Не поможет, но есть другие варианты:
· Эволюция восстановления
· Запасной Шпиль
· Снос Бункера



Зачем нужны такие выкрутасы, если можно вообще ничего не компенсировать?
«Старая» КолТ9 стоит 100М газа, новая Колт7 будет стоить 40М. Половину этой разницы мы компенсируем. Так же будет для уровней 10 и 11. (Это больше пример для иллюстрации теперь, потому что уже обсуждаем КУ 6, а не 5.5.)



Новая КолТ10 будет дороже, чем старая КолТ12. Можем и компенсировать, отобрав у вас часть разницы.



Игроки будут решать, когда и какие планеты им покидать в режиме деколонизации.



Пока планируется так.



Уже обсуждали. Чтобы всего было 10 планет хватит 27-го Шпиля. 30-ый Шпиль будет аналогом КолТ10.



«Оценочная стоимость» не является стоимостью производства.
Но если это собираемые предметы, то как минимум ресурсы из их стоимости учтём.

Aucune estimation pour le moment (nous utiliserons peut-être l'arrivée d'Iosif comme moment pour le faire). La ​​notification du moment où la décolonisation deviendra possible sera bien sûr publiée.



Nous modifierons les conditions requises pour construire une banque. Les banques déjà construites ne seront pas affectées, ce n'est pas ainsi que fonctionnent les conditions requises dans le jeu.

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We're not stealing anything from you. Everything on the server is the property of server's owners (except maybe for Hydarian Crystals before they are spent on anything), we're just shuffling it around according to owner's wishes. You can find more technical explanations in the license agreement.

From the gameplay perspective, this is a PvP game, so there's no difference for us whether the “number” you care about is 100 or 10, so long as it goes up and down for all players in a balanced way.



That's your decision, not ours. We're not forcing you to use any paid features.
But if you want some marketing from someone who is absolutely not a marketer, I'd say Premium's bonus planet will become a bit more powerful. Right now if someone has 10 planets and you have 11 after spending the same resources and using Premium, your relative power is 10% higher. But if you both drop 2 planets, and you have 9 while your opponent has 8, your relative bonus would be 12.5% instead.



You will be 1 planet over the limit.

Right now your highest level is 17, because there's no need to develop it further. You can get it to 21 beforehand, which will bring your expected planet slots up to 9 (1 base, +7 from Spire, +1 from Premium). Then, after Colonization technology level is reset, you'll get enough resources back to cover the cost of these extra Spire levels, and you would only need to decolonize one planet to keep your empire within the new limit.
This change is not intended to hurt your race more than the others.

Because this is a “technical zone”, and rules against flood and flame are enforced more strictly here. There's a separate section for complaints.

Ясно, надо внять просьбам трудящихся и сделать 6.



Нет.
Вы сможете избавиться от лишнего флота с компенсацией затрат, когда будет внедрена возможность деколонизации.



Ну не может же быть такого, что у КА™ есть какие-то мотивы помимо спутников, верно?